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The final quotations from the recorder of PanAm in the collisions section are not in transcripts of the event on third party websites. When you Google the statements (at least the first page) of results looks like they copy this quotation from Wikipedia. It looks to me like a dramatized/fictional quotation. Can we please find a reliable source for it? Peace and Passion☮("I'm listening....")01:16, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Researching back into the history, there was a transcript that morphed over time like a meme, with minor and major changes consistently being made to the transcript. A 'dubious' tag was associated with the section. On May 27, 2007, with no further citation, an editor removed the tag. At one point the captain even included "Oh, Shit!" Please tell me someone's fictional last words haven't been on the Wiki for about 15 years... (and spawned into other later sources). Peace and Passion☮("I'm listening....")04:41, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
A PBS Nova source (https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/planecrash/minutes.html) has the quotation, and they say it is from this (http://www.project-tenerife.com/engels/PDF/Tenerife.pdf) document. Oddly, it is not in that document. It would likely be around page 57 (of the document's printed pagination), but it is not, all that is said is the report writer saying there were "logical exclamations of alarm." Unusually, as well, the "goddamn" quotation is not in the actual transcript-format part of the Nova article, it is in an associated paragraph, while earlier in the article they say the paragraphs not in the transcript itself are "NOVA annotations" (fabrications?). Peace and Passion☮("I'm listening....")05:05, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
[Note: I just realized that a more thorough transcript is "hidden" collapsed in the article. I had not recognized this at first, hence my apparent confusion above. Nevertheless, it still appears problematic, and the now cited video narrator adds in the swearing, while a redacted transcript is shown on screen. This must be somewhere!] Peace and Passion☮("I'm listening....")''05:06, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Are we quite sure about the KLM jet's name? It is given in the article as Rijn, and while we can see the name Rhine (not Rijn) in the infobox photo, it is only painted on the fuselage fore. Aft, we see another name, The Flying Dutchman, seemingly in the same style of lettering. Furthermore, it is the only name that we can see in this picture. What is the explanation? Kelisi (talk) 06:34, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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